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March 21, 2022 at 2:17 pm #18368
Hi, I’m Eli, from Uruguay, I am joining this class with Stitch as we are trying to get the best of us to become a team. We already have a lot of fun at Let’s play, and now we are continuing this journey together.
We discover how sensitive could be Stitch, and how hard is his will to please, I would say he is a Brainiac, so we made some of the Lesson 1 basic drills:
I found that working with static toy was hard for him, as he was all the time worried about the toy and wanted to go for it at any chance.
I also observed that while he was doing second exercises I noticed he is running really slow compared with when he is running wild and free or playing with other dogs… do you think that is because he is thinking? because of the static toy? or maybe should I motivate or encourage/cheer him more?-
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March 21, 2022 at 6:46 pm #18375Hi, today we made first short speedy sequence:
March 22, 2022 at 12:01 pm #18385Don’t worry, everything you describe is normal! Dogs are always a little bit conflicted when you first start working with static toys, but it pays off to clear this misunderstandings now with these very simple and easy drills, because in the future with more complicated sends/outs/ins,… training is MUCH easier if you can reward with static toy.
That doesn’t mean you have to train only with static toys, you can also throw them sometimes (crazy balls or just one), especially if you see his overall mood or motivation is decreasing. Like for example – start with thrown toys, than do one or two reps with the static toy, than one more where you just do it over one or two jumps and you restrain him first, throw the toy and release him after the toy almost immediately – this is easier than if the toy is just lying around and the dog has to do other things before being sent there. Than to finish you do another little sequence with thrown toy. You can follow Caro&Seven’s topic because I just wrote a few suggestions for static toy games that will improve his understanding of when to go for a static toy and when not to as well and those you can do away from agility equipment.
And one very important thing – he is at the very begining of agility journey, so for now he doesn’t really make mistakes… he only makes some things that are better and some things that not so good. So rather than telling him NO every time he misses the jump or something, don’t say anything or say just something kind like “oopsi” with a happy voice and try to think about how to make it easier for him. You can put the bar down and wings more apart, so it is easier for him to not miss it, or you can take food and just walk him over the jump rewarding with food throws and than gradually adding more distance – starting from further and further away and eventually from the tunnel… Rather than telling him no, make a BIG difference from not being totally right to being totally right – when he is successful, make a big big party and take long time to give him proper and dynamic reward. 🙂March 22, 2022 at 4:09 pm #18395Thank you! I won’t use NO, and try oops instead.
We are going to do some static toy exercises mixing with treats and away from agility course.
Should we repeat the sequence mixing types of rewards? or do you think a new sequence would be better?March 23, 2022 at 3:42 pm #18416“Should we repeat the sequence mixing types of rewards? or do you think a new sequence would be better?”
You can repeat and add some other variations on the same setup. 🙂March 27, 2022 at 1:14 pm #18493Hi, as we previously made some turns… we have done turns with crazy balls, in two sessions:
March 28, 2022 at 2:02 am #18496We also worked on static toy exercises mixing with treats and away from agility course. Stitch didn’t show any interest for toys when food was around (on bag, on my hand and even he went to the kitchen to look for it). later, when he finally realized that food was no more involved we could do some tricks and rewarded them with toys
March 28, 2022 at 2:09 am #18497And lure out of a turn:
March 28, 2022 at 1:15 pm #18513He had fun with crazy balls, but remember they are really tiresome, so I don’t suggest too many repetitions. He looked tired at some points and therefore also not as tight anymore. So I would try to mix up the exercises some more. You can start with a short crazy balls drill and than switch to a short sequence with a static toy, than lure him out of wraps couple of times, than back to some static toy drills and at the end another round of crazy balls. And also do breaks between rounds. When you are luring him out of turns, pull the toy a bit faster so he doesn’t catch it right behind the wing.
For food toys exchanges – let’s do it this way. Start with some food throws, than suddenly grab one of the toys and don’t give up with it. If it is a ball, keep on throwing/rolling it. It it is a tug toy, keep offering chases. Run away from him with toys and look like you are having the best time with it until he engages. Than after some playing switch to food throws again and repeat. Just be more stubborn than him to help him switch.May 26, 2022 at 10:56 pm #18968Hi, how are you? Sorry for having been away for so long
Here we are, we had some really hard days, but we are safe and sane and back home!! Ready for resuming our agility journey!
During this time without uploading videos, we made some short sequences every now and then. We also were in Brasil some days and were invited to train with some people there. I’m not sure if I am allowed to upload some examples of that (I left them behind just in case), but as a summary, I can say, that although I see Stitch has grown up a lot these weeks, I see that while running into an agility course, he is really really much slower than when running wild and free without any route, playing with dogs or discovering a new place. Reading your post I think that’s part of being a Brainiac-dog, so please, I would love to receive some advice on where to resume this class, hoping you could help us to get the best of both of us !
04/04 – Brasil
12/04 – Brasil
16/05 – home
19/05 – home
21/05 – During a trial, in g a new agility place
May 27, 2022 at 1:38 pm #18974Hi! I was wondering how you and Stich are doing. 🙂 Overall I think you have nothing to worry about, at least from what I can see from the videos. It is common for young dogs to not just sprint out with all the speed in the world, especailly if they are not maniacs and are trying to learn in the process. Stich has some variations in overall speed and enthusiasm, but for example in the session with Felipe he had really nice speed and he also did pretty well on the trial! Things to look for is how he generally behaves. Is he interested, cooperative, likes to come back to start a new sequence… ? As long as he is like that, you can assume he will gradually add more and more speed when his confidence grows. If you see some avoidance and you have to “beg” for attention sometimes, than I would say he needs some differently structured trainings because that can lead to troubles.
If you want to do things to help him improve speed and confidence, I suggest you mostly run very open and fluent sequences. I also have the feeling that chaining works well for him. Meaning that you start with a small part, reward heavily and than build more before or after that part. I saw on 19.5 home video that he got confused when the course went on for too long without reinforcers. I would also work on how you set him up in a start line (doing some happy and energetic tricks maybe). So you can choose the sequences from my lessons or any other ones you have set up, and try to focus on his emotions… getting him pumped up before start, doing one of the chaining methods that leads up to a ful and total jackpot party. 🙂
May 27, 2022 at 3:26 pm #18975In my humble opinion, what I have noticed is that at home, he is in a sort of “learning mood” like expecting to learn something new and wondering not to fail and making everything as expected, but when I correct him, he frustrates really quickly and goes slowly. In new environments, he is a bit better in that aspect, that’s why I really try to encourage those activities outside home. I think in many opportunities he is interested and cooperative and comes back to start a new sequence, but we also have some times when I have to beg for his attention 🙁 .
I don’t have any special routine for the start line, so I will try to make one that pumps him.
We will configure your topic 3 sequences, but as we still don’t have introduced In & Threadles I will help him a bit with my handlingMay 27, 2022 at 10:15 pm #18979We made the white sequence from topic 3 and I totally felt what I have previously tried to put into words.
May 30, 2022 at 8:58 am #18990I see what you mean and to some degree this is normal. On the video you posted you basically started to teach him a new skill and of course he made some mistakes, so you can’t expect him to be totally wild and crazy. But I don’t think the difficulty was too hard and the way you set the rest of the course up and the reward delivery, helped him pick up the pace. So all and all I would say this was not a bad session. But if you feel like he is not having enough fun, you can make some sessions where it is all fun and games – brainiac style from my lesson 1. You can run longer sequences, but nice, open, easy, fluent… and big party before and after. Correcting the mistakes fluently, without stopping.
The thing is – these days the agility became really technical. So it is hard/impossible for a dog to just do everything full speed from the moment they start learning about it. If they do, because of the type of drive/temperament they have, they are often very difficult to control or they get themselves in troubles because they turn off the brain completely. Generally I see nothing wrong if the dog picks up the skill with the speed he is comfortable with and than when his confidence grows, the speed grows as well. But training is always a process… If I see the dog is getting more and more “meh” throughout the session(s) it is an information for me to make the training “lighter” and more fun to turn the curve back. And if I see the dog is getting “wild” I will up the difficulty and start more “brain” work again… So it is all a process that is reversible, you just have to observe and adjust. And not every training is ever perfect. Bad trainings are part of a process.
So from what I see I am not concerned, but Stitch is still very young, nothing wrong with adding some trainings where he doesn’t have to do ins and outs and discriminations and stuff… and just party and enjoy himself to build up confidence. He still has time to learn every skill there is. 🙂June 15, 2022 at 8:31 pm #19044Hi, this week we did sequences from topic 5, I tried to play a lot before and after and also rewarded some short parts instead of whole exercise.
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