Forums Let`s play – Spring 2022 Students Jo & Honey, WCS, 1 yr old, NZ

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  • #18476
    Jo Allen
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      Honey is my second working cocker spaniel and she is very different to my other one. Honey is happy and easy to train, she just seems a little more sensitive and doesn’t seem to be very interested in playing tug with me, also I cannot keep her enthusiasm up when I’m teaching her foundation agility, so I have stopped working on that for the moment. I am here to find out the best way to get the best out of Honey, I want her to enjoy her life and hopefully enjoy doing agility as much as her older sister. Any help you can give me to grow her confidence and not break her would be amazing.

      #18477
      Jo Allen
      Participant

        Poke me, Honey came out firing and then decided to chill for several minutes, then started again then chilled then a last flurry. I just waited her out between each chill session

        #18478
        Jo Allen
        Participant

          Food Throws
          We have played this heaps before and she loves it. We also tried out the food throw to mouth – excellent game

          #18502
          Polona Bonač
          Keymaster

            Welcome! Nice start and she is a lovely blondie. 🙂
            On the first video I saw glimpses of how se becomes frustrated and stops trying. In the first couple of “breaks” she took she was thinking “i don’t understand what you want… see I am sitting, why is it not ok”. I can see her walking away if the training was more complex or the environment more difficult, but I am sure that will improve significantly in a short time. 🙂 Already in this session she was more productive at the end. The last time she was less frustrated and more just trying to remember what to do to bring action back. 🙂
            Keep doing this exercise exactly the same way, but make sure the environment is not distracting or difficult for her. If she gets stuck during this session and can’t find a way out on her own you can give her a couple of food throws and also add some anticipation before presenting the hand to poke. First keep it up and make it special… “hmm look what I have here… something special” and as she watches you do that with curiosity- bam, place the hand down for her to poke.

            When the first environment is more distracting, make this game more dynamic. A combination of food throws, hide and seek and poke me – only one short poke to bring action back… you get up and start food throws again.

            #18522
            Jo Allen
            Participant

              This morning we played poke me, food throws and hide and seek. She was so much more involved with all aspects today. She got distracted with the hose pipe, so I just reset and off she went. We played poke me yesterday in the house, she was so excited that I ended up with scratches on my face and arms – but it was worth it to see her so happy.

              #18524
              Jo Allen
              Participant

                She caught on really quickly with this game – after watching the video I don’t think I was animated enough – but she still seemed happy.

                #18538
                Polona Bonač
                Keymaster

                  Cool! Scratch marks are definitely a good sign! If things get too crazy you can gradually start to shape out a less invasive behavior – nose touch for example. But for now it is best if you bare with it for a while for her to really loosen up. You can always switch to food throws if she gets too wild.
                  I really like the dynamic! Overall you can start adding some fun and easy tricks she already knows into the mix. When you see she is focused and pushy, you can randomly ask for a trick and reward with lots of chasing and throwing treats. If you kneel down and expect her to poke you but she fails to do so initially, but looks eager and engaged, you can still reward a little and wait if she “upgrades”… at which point you reward more – add more action. Same goes for when you are doing engagemnt game. She was immediately focused on you and even offered to heel… give her at least a verbal prise for it – she has to know that giving you attention is the right thing to do. But you can break into action when she has given you something more.

                  #18601
                  Jo Allen
                  Participant

                    Today we tried all three games in a new environment – she was awesome. My only problem with her now is if I’m stood around talking to people she jumps all over me – hahahaha. But she is definitely coming out of her shell and getting a little crazy

                    #18615
                    Jo Allen
                    Participant

                      Honey, food pouch – totally new to Honey and we did it at our agility grounds, purely as I had some spare time. She picked it up really well, struggled to get her nose into the small pouch bit so I am getting a bigger one made. Really enjoying working with this girl, she loves to learn

                      #18616
                      Jo Allen
                      Participant

                        Also a note re the food pouch – she isn’t a tugger – something I would like her to do, so was interested to see how she worked with food and a toy.

                        #18637
                        Polona Bonač
                        Keymaster

                          Really cool! I love that we are turning her into a little maniac. 😉
                          “ My only problem with her now is if I’m stood around talking to people she jumps all over me – hahahaha”
                          Hehe, yeah well…. drive comes with some disadvantages sometimes. 😉 But no seriously – you can scatter some food and tell her to “go sniff” when you want piece and quiet to talk with someone. Or you can wait for her feet to touch the ground again and drop a treat as a reward. Repeat relatively frequently to keep her down.

                          Food games looking really cool. You can start including random tricks/behaviors she knows. Start with simple stuff & stuff she really likes. Sometimes when she offers engagent/jumps up, ask for something. Sit, down, spin, nose touch, figure 8 between your legs,… Or sometimes even a sequence of two or more. Than reward with some big action – food throws or hide and seek. Of course don’t forget to reward just engagent at times. But you can start asking for stuff. If you are around agility obstacles the “stuff” can also be individual tunnels, jumps or wraps around jump wings.

                          Food pocket play – also really nice! To turn it into tugging, make sure to use the free hand to grab the toy closer to her mouth after she bites. If you feel any resistance at all from that bite, let the toy slip through both your hands, so winning is the immediate consequence of the bite. Gradually you can increase the difficulty and not give it up immediately (even if she will be surprised and drop a couple of times – in that case just create the next fast chase) – “ask” for some stronger resistance before letting go. Grabbing the toy with your free hand and shortening the distance will allow you to keep better tension in the toy and usually that makes the dog want to resist you and therefore either lean back or even activelly pull back.

                          #18723
                          Jo Allen
                          Participant

                            Hi Poloma, the food games and mixing with tricks and a bit of agility is going really well, short video below of todays play, tomorrow I’ll re try the food pouch as we have a new toy to play with and she loves it. We also done the snuffle mat, and food scatters which she also loves. She does have a great off switch, at the moment hahahaha

                            #18735
                            Jo Allen
                            Participant

                              Hi, Honey attended her first ever seminar today, I was expecting to just play some games and build her confidence, I was blown away, she did little sequences and even chased and tugged between each run, I got her to jump on me to get her going and she was amazing, in my eyes anyway. So just wanted to show you

                              #18736
                              Polona Bonač
                              Keymaster

                                Looking good! Show me the food pouch as well as the regular toy playing too! 🙂 Love her enthusiasm! To promote even more speed, you can start running away from her as soon as she enters into a wrap or a tunnel (or even sooner, as soon as you feel she is commited). Get as far as you can before you catches up and than throw the treat. After she is off for the treat you can turn around and run back towards the wing/tunnel and ask her to repeat the task out of motion.

                                “She does have a great off switch, at the moment hahahaha”
                                Hehe, good for you. 🙂 But generally I am never afraid to promote crazyness and drive with dogs that have the tendency to shut down, because as a rule they always “keep their brains” – meaning they don’t get hyper to the point where it would be disruptive in every day life. One could say they have too much self control, so that is why it is important that we show them that they can be wild in training. 🙂

                                #18747
                                Jo Allen
                                Participant

                                  Honey and food pouch, she is so much more willing to play now, just love it

                                  Also scatter feed with all the dogs

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