Forums Let`s play – Spring 2022 Students Sandra & Müüsli, Border Collie, 4,5 month old, Germany

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  • #18186
    Sandra
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      Hey,

      I’m here because I want to build good foundations with my puppy and to learn some playing skills that will perhaps also bring fun for my 6 year old BC.
      Little Müü is crazy about (high value)food and will for sure love the first game..
      She also likes toys a lot and tugs quite well. But she likes to run away with the toys, playing on her own and destroying them.
      So I hope we will learn that playing together is way better than this.

      Looking forward to the next weeks

      #18194
      Polona Bonač
      Keymaster

        Welcome! And I am looking forward to some puppy fun! 🙂

        #18230
        Sandra
        Participant

          So, here’s our first video.. tried it before being not so quiet and had her teeth in my nose – so that was on purpose ?

          #18235
          Sandra
          Participant

            And the second video: first food throws and a few bad trys hiding myself ??

            #18249
            Polona Bonač
            Keymaster

              Hihi, what a cute little puppy she is! She has really nice engagement and food drive! Inside you can combine pokes with some throws across the room and from time to time you can also include a trick or two – something she already knows or something you can lure her into. Do a couple of pokes, than reward one of them with a throw across the room and when she comes back ready for more, ask her for a simple behaviour she knows already or lure her into a trick she doesn’t yet know – but only stuff that are relatively simple.
              Outside try to do this game often in unfamiliar environments, to encourage a puppy to keep an eye on you at all times and be ready for action in every random place imaginable. You only do short sessions of it, before and after let her go about her business as usual. When you play on your garden you can spread more treats on the ground, so she spends more time searching for them when you want to really hide. But even if you don’t always hide, you can try to “dribble” her around tunnels and weaves. That kind of personal interaction will come in handy when it comes to retrieving toys and also for coordination and footing in agility. 🙂

              #18377
              Sandra
              Participant

                Thank you.
                Yes, she can be extremely cute ?

                We combined poke me with a few food throws and added simple tricks.
                I also threw food on our walks but didn’t filmed it.

                #18388
                Polona Bonač
                Keymaster

                  Cool! I would also include some restrains in a session like this. Depending on how much she likes/dislikes it, it can only be just one and not even with the ball. Just restrain, throw a treat and release when you see good focus and tension towards the treat. Also – you can develop poke me into a verbal discrimination/thinking game. Always start with her directly in front of you. Than move one of your hands to the side (just like you were doing for poke me). Before you do, use “left” or “right” or any other cues you can think off but one for one side and one for the other. Given that the dog is turned towards you, it makes sense you use the opposite – meaning your right hand is going left for the dog… but that totally depends on you.
                  Anyway – first give the cue and immediately after, bring out the appropriate hand. Once she gets used to the new words, you can say the word and put out both hands at the same time and she only gets rewarded if she chooses the correct one. When I first start with the dog and they choose the wrong hand I usually say something like “a-a” or “ooopsie” and wait for the dog to go check out the other hand which I quickly reward. But eventually I will no longer reward if the dog makes the wrong choice. Instead I will still say “a-a”, bring the hands together again and repeat the whole thing. Otherwise it can quickly become… “I will try one and if it is not that one it is the other one”.

                  #18394
                  Sandra
                  Participant

                    Do you mean ball or bowl?

                    Meanwhile we tried a few restrains to bowl. It went not so well, when one holds her at her harness and one is running with a toy she’s really pulling…

                    I managed it to really hide me:

                    #18396
                    Sandra
                    Participant

                      And first try Jump Up:

                      #18418
                      Polona Bonač
                      Keymaster

                        Restrain – no worries, she is doing perfectly fine for a puppy this young. 🙂 With pups I do less repetitions at once and if you see she is not resisting/pulling, rather than pulling her further back, let her go forward for a step or two and stop her again, closer to the bowl. And it is perfectly fine to do it with harness and the toy, harness and thrown toy or harness and thrown food. And yes, in the previous comment I meant bowl not ball. 🙂

                        Hihi dogs are so funny when they “loose” the handler. Nice hide and seek! When doing food throws and running up and down the field, try to start calling her on a specific hand as soon as she turns around after eating the treat. So she doesn’t try to outrun you. 🙂 You don’t want her to practise that too much in connection with your movement. You can start just walking not running first so you can control things better. Throw and when she turns wiggle the hand you are calling her too and call her. You can even ask for a nose touch if she will have problems coming directly to the hand. Than gradually pick up the pace.

                        Jump up – good! When you are in the environment with more distractions you can be satisfied with any attention she gives you and reward it with action – I usually run backwards and talk to the dog with happy voice while I search for and deliver the treat. I want the dog to understand that by giving me attention (on his own, not being provoked) action starts. The energy and proposal that comes from the dog and is not provoked in any way is always the best kind of attention/engagement suitable to build on. 🙂

                        #18517
                        Sandra
                        Participant

                          We tried crazy balls as I don’t want her to tug atm because of so many lost teeth..
                          We still don’t have a release cue and I have the feeling the more she’s running the harder she holds the balls..

                          #18536
                          Polona Bonač
                          Keymaster

                            Yes, you are right. The longer you played, the more she was holding on, but that is normal. She was getting tired and overwhelmed. So I suggest a couple of things. First of all keep the session short, only a couple of exchanges, no more. Try to start with ball to food exchanges – throw ball in one direction and than food in the other… ball again, food again… If that goes well, you can randomly do ball to ball and also food to food and than ball again.
                            It is a smart choice to stop tugging for the time she is teething. 🙂

                            #18556
                            Sandra
                            Participant

                              I meant, when she’s running faster she holds them more.. so I didn’t run that much like it is mentioned in the description of the excercise and stayed more stationary.
                              So we tried balls to food.. she drops the ball when she arrives at me. Don’t get her to drop them while moving or for another ball…

                              #18567
                              Polona Bonač
                              Keymaster

                                “ I meant, when she’s running faster she holds them more.. so I didn’t run that much like it is mentioned in the description of the excercise and stayed more stationary.”
                                Oh yes, that too! When they are focusing on some kind of action, they can totally forget that they are carrying something in their mouth. 🙂 So yes, you were completely right to slow down.
                                Ball to food exchanges went well! She was getting more and more fluent throughout the session. You can keep moving slowly, but make sure you always turn your back fully to her, don’t face her with your front as that makes her drift away some. Now that you can predict when she will drop, you can start using some word that will mark that. “Aus, drop,…” In the first phase only use it during/or just before you know she will drop it based on how she normally behaves. When she gets familiar with the word, you will be able to help her drop it while moving as well. Also make sure you react to droping with excitement “yeey, what a good girl” so she is reminded that it is dropping the toy that makes a difference in this game. It is natural for pups to not even be aware of what they are doing, because they are only doing what feels convenient to them at a certain point.

                                #18620
                                Sandra
                                Participant

                                  I had a rare helper, so here are some restrains and a bit of tugging and chasing. Chasing without a helper is really hard, because she’s faster than me and I don’t want her to jump too much..

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