Forums Let`s play – Spring 2022 Students Natasha and Prancer, 5 year old Pyr Shep from NZ

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    Natasha Coulter
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      Prancer and I have joined the course to help work through the issue he has at trials. He loves both food and toys and will tug and accept treat in the trail shute and right up to the line. The issue starts when I put his treats and toys down and move into the ring. He is reluctant to come with me and often looks over his shoulder for the toys and treats. When he comes into the ring he is reluctant to sit (which he normally does very quickly). Again he is looking behind at the toys and treats but also at other dogs and people and he gets nervous. When I walk away from him to lead out he is always nervous and looking behind. This means he starts slowly and will sometimes scan the outside of the ring as he is running. We play lots of games up to the ring and he is really well engaged then he disengages right as we step into the ring. He is a very playful dog but is sensitive and is not very resilient if something goes wrong or he gets a fright.

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      #18165
      Polona Bonač
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        Welcome! Working with a sensitive dog is quite a challenge, but I am sure we will be able to boost up his confidence… it seems like you are on the right track, just one little piece is missing, we will find it!

        #18243
        Natasha Coulter
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          #18244
          Natasha Coulter
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            I was at a trial over the weekend so I did not get a lot done. As you can see Prancer is very animated and loves food and cuddles. I did do some food throw practice at the trial which went well. He is affected by his environment and can be a massive drama queen lol

            #18261
            Natasha Coulter
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              #18262
              Natasha Coulter
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                #18263
                Polona Bonač
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                  I am really sorry it took me so long. I was just about to reply the last comments yesterday when I managed to knock down my computer and destroy it – the genius that I am. :/

                  The games wen’t really well! He is a very energetic boy when he feels safe and comfortable enough. You played it really well generally. Be mindful about how you integrate cuddling in the mix, because (and that is very typical for dogs in this context) it is not always received well. I never noticed him being really put off by it, but at 1.55 for example, the touching was only a distraction, it didn’t add value to whatever you were doing. After 2.57 however he was going for it. I usually never lean into them to pet them, but lean back instead, touching the side of their bodies first and see if they want to engage in more cuddles or not.
                  Other than that, I suggest 2 things in regards to this games:
                  1. Try to find as many different environments as possible to play those games. It can be agility/dog sport related (trials, group trainings, shows,…) or not – in front of a super market, in a park,… Keep the playing very brief – one minute is enough. Try to build up excitement. Starting with engagement and upgrading how lively you get and how many treats you deliver. You can finish with a little Tupperware filled with something delicious as a jackpot, especially when working in a difficult environment.
                  2. At home/in familiar fields/whenever he is not having troubles with confidence you can try to turn these games into some kind of a routine that resembles what you do on trials. Start with engagement, add some tricks in the mix, upgrade the excitement level… than ask for a stay, walk away and release into a very fast rounds of food throws and/or hide and seek, depends on the place you have available.

                  #18307
                  Natasha Coulter
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                    #18308
                    Natasha Coulter
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                      I tried this game with Prancer tonight. He has been taught “middle” so he was a little confused to start with so he stood between my legs lol.

                      #18316
                      Polona Bonač
                      Keymaster

                        Haha poor little champ! You could almost see smoke coming out of his ears trying to figure out the rules of this new game. 🙂 But I have a feeling that he won’t need long before it becomes one of his favourites since he (like most Pyrs) looks really jumpy. 🙂 You can add a cue mixed with a praise while he is jumping up, so you will be able to suggest when jumping up is ok/desired. If he is used to get in between your legs and than wait as you walk away, you can also wait a few more sessions of jump up for it to become more imprinted and than mixing the two in one session – always starting with jump up (potentially mixed with some spins or figure 8) and than finally asking for get in between and you walk away only to release him in a fast round of food throws.

                        #18339
                        Natasha Coulter
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                          #18340
                          Natasha Coulter
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                            I did a food toy session tonight then mixed things up with another routine. More the sort of thing I would use at a trial except I can’t throw the treats in the starting shoot. I did some practice at the trial this weekend at it went really well. He played the game the same as at home but I still got the diconnect on the start line. I will try to get a video of it for you to see,

                            #18351
                            Natasha Coulter
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                              #18352
                              Natasha Coulter
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                                I did some restrain tonight. He has done restrain before but I would say he can be a little sensitive to it at times. I think he feels the pressure is sometimes to much. I tried to just keep him close where he seemed to be more willing to resist me. When he could not see the food I got less of that.

                                #18364
                                Polona Bonač
                                Keymaster

                                  “I did a food toy session tonight then mixed things up with another routine. More the sort of thing I would use at a trial except I can’t throw the treats in the starting shoot. I did some practice at the trial this weekend at it went really well. He played the game the same as at home but I still got the diconnect on the start line. I will try to get a video of it for you to see,”
                                  Yes, that would be helpful! Do you always start with a stay or have you done some running starts as well?
                                  It is great that he is able to have fun in the trial environment just as well as at home. But we have to pay a lot of attention to the chain of behaviours leading from when he is still relaxed and focused to the moment you start the course, break it down and find where he needs help.
                                  For now I find it important that getting in position, staying and than exploding in action becomes a regular part of your training sessions. The beginnings look good, now try to slow things down the moment you have him sitting. Tell him wait and walk away slowly and with tension – you can leave the hand with the treat behind for him to focus on. As you are slowly walking away, build some anticipation… ready… steady… and than bam, release into full blown action.
                                  You can also do a different thing – randomly throughout playing ask for sit or down and than alternate between rewarding the quick reaction with a quick release back into throws or chasing or delivering a whole series of rewards to him in quick succession, moving the hand back and forward quickly so he remains focused on it the whole time. When you have only one treat left in the hand, release into action.

                                  Restrain – yes, keep things simple and short! Things the dog struggle with should be well packed into some other fun activities (you did a great energetic combo with food throw(s)) and not done too many times in a row. So keep him close and only do one or two repetitions before switching to some other activity.

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